S1 and
S2 threads.
Total tally from last seasons:
Agreeable: 23, Agreeable, but lacking research: 7, Debatable: 12, Wrong: 12, Joke: 3
Last time I was surprised by the number of agreeable episodes in S2, since that season has infamous episodes. This time we will look at Season 3, which standardized when episodes come out (and made them smaller which is a blessing because even these small blurbs took way too long to check up on lol).
…I still have a bad feeling about this season, but maybe luck will turn out fine here too?
58. Dante vs Bayonetta DB Verdict: Dante wins, due to beating Bayo in all categories except strength, his arsenal matches Bayo’s, Madama Butterfly isn’t too different from Dante’s foes, Dante can shrug off mortal wounds, Dante is normally faster due to raindrop feat and Quicksilver counters Witch Time.
Analysis: I wonder if I should do count on how many characters get lolregen except Buu. While I’ve heard Dante is upgraded thanks to DMCV, at the time is was not that great of an analysis. Cool animation tho.
Conclusion: Wrong, at best outdated nowadays
59. Bowser vs Ganon DB Verdict: Ganon wins, due to deadlier magic and superior intellect beating Bowser’s raw strength, Ganon requires holy weapons to be truly killed, while Bowser is technically normally unkillable he did die in NSMBDS as Dry Bowser from falling a long distance, which Ganon can replicate with unlimited pool of magic to curse Bowser’s body to decay like Deku Tree and then finish him off.
Analysis: Imagine being given supernova & black hole durability feats and then dying due to falling a long distance. I might lowball Marioverse, but frankly I’m pretty sure even lowballed Bowser is more than match to Ganon. It is dumb to assume the curse would affect immediately, as Deku Tree didn’t die that fast and then unlimited magic & only holy weapons NLF was given to Ganon. If only Bowser could be avenged by someone… :d
Conclusion: Wrong
60. Ratchet & Clank vs Jak & Daxter DB Verdict: R&C wins, due to better teamwork, superior defenses overwhelming arsenal, Nanotech is better healer than Green Eco, Shielding weapons stop offensive Eco, Morph Gun while impressive is nothing to R&C’s arsenal in size and power, Dark Jak is limited while R&C’s weaponry isn’t, Clank > Daxter.
Analysis: With the last 2 fights people were getting worried, but we actually got one of the most solid verdicts in the series. (Although I almost think I need to do a rant, I played ACiT and for the love of god I cannot remember the source on Clank actually being immune to time hax [this does not mean J&D win lol, even if this means 1 win condition R&C have like 50+ with all the weapons].)
Conclusion: Agreeable
61. Flash vs Quicksilver DB Verdict: Flash wins, due to being Flash. (Is much faster, can trap people in Speed Force, muh attosecond, QS’s combat training advantage means jackshit)
Analysis: Has anyone ever unironically thought QS wins in any forum? Can anyone find a link for that?
EDIT: I've been convinced this episode actually could have been way better researched.
Conclusion: What the f*** do you think, but Still lacking in research
62. Joker vs Sweet Tooth DB Verdict: Joker wins, due to superior tactics and unpredictable weaponry, Joker Venom oneshots, smart enough to trick Batman & Superman, Needles isn’t as bright and Joker as manipulated people like him.
Analysis: A monumental episode, this episode started the use of extended research team. Overtime some of the dumber things get ironed out!.. except maybe not here? Honestly, I’m not sure on this verdict. Sure, in fist fight Joker indeed stomps, but no way does Needles not win if he has a mech like that. Not only would Joker Venom be much less effective on it, in dumb logic, how could Joker even manipulate Needles if he is in the mech? I’d say wrong, but I guess debatable depending on different scenarios.
Conclusion: Debatable
63. Mewtwo vs Shadow DB Verdict: Mewtwo wins, due to brains beating Shadow’s speed and power, Mewtwo can mind read and get knowledge on Shadow’s skills, has good enough durability and healing to have time to counter Shadow, Shadow himself has been mind controlled before and needed outside help to get free, Super Shadow isn’t immune to mind protection.
Analysis: Hmm kind of wrong? Mewtwo beats base Shadow for sure, but frankly Super Shadow, even if at Planet level should be more than enough. Lighspeed at minimum is too fast for Mewtwo.
Conclusion: Wrong
64. Meta vs Carolina DB Verdict: Carolina wins, due to mastery of martial arts and equipment matching and beating Meta’s strength, Healing Unit repairs Temporal Distortion damage, Meta drains too much energy, while Carolina’s Epsilon can change tactics, also Freelancer & AI in comparison makes it clear Freelancer had superior teamwork over 8 AI manipulating Meta.
Analysis: Still haven’t bothered with Red vs Blue, but uhh seemingly I’ve seen many say that this is wrong? It’s awkward since this isn’t talked much. So uhh, if anyone can help me here…
Conclusion: Wrong?
65. Cammy vs Sonya DB Verdict: Sonya wins, due to superior strength, arsenal, tactics & experience beating speed and agility, Sonya’s foes are more impressive.
Analysis: There has been debate on this one, SF didn’t get as much while MK did. It might lean towards wrong, but at least it’s debatable.
Conclusion: Debatable
66. Tracer vs Scout DB Verdict: Tracer wins, due to unique arsenal & evasiveness beating Scout’s speed, Scout’s rocket feat isn’t that impressive, Tracer is actually fast enough to react to Scout’s weapons and her Recall ruins surprise attacks.
Analysis: This is infamous for bit different reasons. This animation had a really bad outlook on Scout, making him appear very slow. It soured a lot of people. Even verdict doesn’t seem to be that clear.
Conclusion: Debatable?
67. Ken vs Terry DB Verdict: Terry wins, due to sheer power, Terry’s foes are stronger in general than Ken’s, Terry is also faster.
Analysis: Seems fine? Trivia, this episode had to be re-released again, and since this isn’t one of the most hyped fights, I believe this episode has one of the least views of all DBs, if not by far least views. Bummer.
Conclusion: Agreeable
68. Amy Rose vs Ramona Flowers DB Verdict: Amy wins, due to beating Ramona in all but smarts and being more level headed, Amy matches some of Sonic’s speed, even if not the best speeds that is still too much for Ramona, Amy’s strength is better as well as durability, Amy could escape the subspace since Gideon could by destroying the bag.
Analysis: Fairly reasonable. Even if Ramona is more liked character, using video game meteors or attempting to scale to Todd’s Moon feat are way too dubious.
Conclusion: Agreeable
69. Hulk vs Doomsday DB Verdict: Doomsday wins, due to matching Hulk in many ways, Hulk might be stronger via unlimited raw strength but Doomsday has fought Superman & Doomsday and won meaning Planet busters are something he can handle, while he has better speed due to fighting Justice League while Hulk’s only closest match is Sentry, however a key detail is that while even if Hulk’s strength is unlimited his healing factor is not, he is technically human so eventually it is possible to overtax Hulk’s healing factor, like when Zeus did, Doomsday has shown to be immune to being killed by same way before when he fought much more powerful Superman, so all in all Doomsday being immune to being ripped, impaled, incinerated, blasted with energy being beating by blunt force from focused and multiple sources mean Hulk doesn’t have many options to take down Doomsday before his healing factor is done.
Analysis: Oh boy. Tbh, this is mostly ok, however there has been few wrong things here. This episode did do a mistake, it showed a scene of Hulk not being in World Breaker while claiming he was. The logic behind Hulk being overtaxed isn’t entirely wrong but DB’s own words aren’t as clear. Recently, Hulk has been gaining crazy feats via Immortal Hulk, but I’m not sure if that kind of power will stick and will be the standard for hulk.
Conclusion: Agreeable, but lacking in research, at worst outdated
70. Zoro vs Erza DB Verdict: Zoro wins, due to being faster, despite Erza’s many armors, Zoro can dish out more than Erza can survive, Erza prefers Clear Heart which isn’t ideal for this match, Zoro even had more experience.
Analysis: Seems fine. I’ve heard Erza might have gotten upgrades that make her win, but I’m not too sure.
Conclusion: Agreeable, at worst outdated
71. Deadpool vs Pinkie Pie DB Verdict: They break the 4th wall so they break out of the fight, because does everything really need to end on death?
Analysis: So, I don’t really read DP comics, so I ask: If magic Pony asked DP to join a party, would DP accept? Legit curious since DP’s portrayal has been very different between writers.
Conclusion: Joke
In the end: Agreeable: 4
Agreeable, but lacking research: 2
Debatable: 3
Wrong: 4
Joke: 1
Oh dear, percentage wise there were a lot of bad ones here. 6/14 were only solid ones? While this was DB’s transitional period, it affected many things. Old animators changed and eventually the extended research team grow more. I think next seasons will be better.
Tho not immune to bad stuff. Certainly not.
FUTURE EDIT:
S4,
S5,
S6 and
S7-1 threads.
